If we look at the US and Canada together they are both quite similar in their culture - heritage(mainly European), language, sports etc. But yet the rate of gun related murders in the US is more than 50 times that of Canada.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mu...
I appreciate there are probably more guns per capita in the US, and I understand that Canada has stricter gun laws.........but the people are essentially the same.
It would be interesting to hear from Canadians as well as Americans.
What element in American society is responsible for VT and Columbine?
First off, Canada has had some pretty horrific mass murder type situations too. Comparing Columbine and VT with a general murder rate is not a proper comparison in any event.
You also overlook trememdous differences in population, have you controlled for the fact that the US population is 10 times that of Canada?
Next, you assume also that things like Columbine and VT result from gun ownership exclusively. Not so....in most cases these mass murders are caused by people who have social and other problems, they merely resort to guns as a means to their ends. If there were no guns, would they stop? I posit not likely, they would merely find other ways to strike out.
I'm not even going any further to answer your question because I believe it contains too many faulty antecedants and premises.
Reply:It is due to GREED...
Reply:US's six times larger population than Canada. Cooler weather in Canada. Socio-democratic system. Affordable Health Care System. Accessibility to weaponry easier in the US. Accessibility to drugs. Consumption of drugs way larger in the USA.Socio-Economic pressures.
Danworth, I think that you are paraphrasing but, aren't all those thoughts that you expressed very similar to those of one very popular guy named HITLER!?
Reply:Parents are responsible for their children. Teachers and mental health professionals next.
Reply:What causes Muslims to strap bombs on themselves and blow up innocent men, women and children ?
Reply:No family structure,
Reply:who knows if that's were we should look?
Reply:Racial, cultural, and sexual alienation caused by the inherent deteriorating nature of society's contemporary fixation on multiculturalism in the institutional and academic realms, combined with the exploitative effects of popular meda and its pseudo-cultural dictates.
Give Canada time and increased diversity, and they will catch up.
(cabron o, Marxist much?)
Reply:The major difference between Canadians and Americans when it comes to gun laws, is that owning a gun is NOT enshrined anywhere in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms as it is in the American constitution.
Ontario put a limit on guns in 77 after the first school shooting here in Ontario in73 in Brampton Ontario.
I think most Canadians up until the last 7 years or so weren't inclined to have a gun in their homes,unles they were with law enforcement or were a hunter or a gun enthusiast. With the advent of gangsters bringing illegal guns into the cities and now the rural areas, some people are thinking that they may need guns to protect themselves, but I don't think the majority of Canadians do.
My father had hunting rifles and amunition, I never knew where he kept them until I had to break up my parents home after they both passed away. Canadians have a respect for guns that Americans, imho don't. We're not as gun culture crazy as Americans. We don't view owning a gun as our God given right. I think if the forefathers were still alive , they wouldn't interpret the second ammendment that way either. It was mainly for the militia and farmers, not the regular citizen.
Reply:guns are so easy to purchase now, and everyone needs protection from the 96 year old lady down the street. people need to start taking karate lessons or somethin
Reply:Indifference and hopelessness.
Reply:I believe the word is "personal" responsibility. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Politicians call for gun control, commentators decry the decadent popular culture, scientists even suggest genetic disorders; but the real answer goes much deeper.
Today's kids desperately need moral guidance. They need to know right from wrong. And sadly, too many adults have abdicated their responsibility to teach kids values that respect life. In public schools, students are taught to "construct" their own truths. And teachers are trained not to offer direction, lest they hamper a child's autonomy. The results of such thinking have been explosive.
Reply:Nothing in "society." There are a lot of problems that could be allieviated by social change. This is not one of them. The sad truth is that we occasionally have deranged individuals who cause tragedies like VT or Columbine.
Maybe one day we will know enough about how the human mind works to reliably spot and treat such sick individuals--but not today, and maybe not in our lifetimes. But don't confuse a psychological problem with a social one.
Reply:Probably the fact that parents are too busy working to devote energy and time to raising kids. That is the job of the TV.
Reply:Although there are many similarities, we cannot put one element in place and point to it. We also have to allow for the human variable. In Columbine the two shooters, seemed to be focused on being loners in a group of loners, and were apparently outcasts as a group. Because of this, they acted and dressed differently then the rest of their peer group. Neither the parents nor the teachers picked up on this, or they thought it was a phase that the kids were going through. The VTech shooter, was over the last two or three years a loner, but one doesn't know if his cultural background influenced him as a variable. Apparently there were several indicators, but they weren't followed up on. This might be due to political correctness, or people not wanting to get involved.
Reply:The Cho element is responsible.
Reply:We sensationalize the perpetrators. We make them stars, and that's what they want. School shootings happen every day, but we don't hear about them because they aren't from middle class and up environments.
Reply:The lack of attention to serious mental health issues seems to be a theme in both situations you mentioned. I am not a pro-gun or really and anti-gun person, but why is it so easy for folks with histories of serious mental illness to get guns. Harris, Klibolt and Chu all had histories that their families knew about yet they got them little to no help and actually in some cases made it easier for them to be societies problem and not their problem.
It isn't fair to compare gun violence in US vs. Canada, there are so many cultural and population differences that it just doesn't scientifically hold a lot of weight. Doing things in a big way to be noticed is more a US phenomena than Canada or most other countries, but Canada has its fair share of serial killers and slower methodical types of sickos, ie Hamolka situation. It isn't correct to say the people are the same in the US as in Canada, there are so many political and cultural difference I wouldn't know where to start, but for starters I would like to point out the effects of population density, poverty, racism and a failed health care system which the US has to contend with and Canada for the most part doesn't.
Good question, no easy answers.
Reply:I'd like an unbiased investigation into these events. Honestly, I don't think that our own government agencies are credible at this point in history (Check out the errors and omissions in the Warren Commission Report and the 9/11 Commission Report.) Our media is also not credible given the conformist and parrot-like reporting service that they perform.
If we could get impartial investigators from Canada, France, and perhaps some credible specialists to investigate the root causes of these event. We can only fix the problem when we understand what the problem is.
Until then, you can bet that someone somewhere will blame CIA Black Ops for these events.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_H...
"The reality of social cliques in high schools was a frequent topic of discussion. Many argued that the pair's isolation from the rest of their classmates prompted feelings of helplessness, insecurity and depression, as well as a strong desire for attention. Some schools also began programs to expose and stop school bullying, which many charged had fueled anger and resentment within Harris and Klebold." (Students tell of bullying at Columbine High . (October 3, 2000) rockymountainnews.com)
Monday, May 11, 2009
Columbine High School Is today the anniversary of that tragedy?
No, it's April 28. (oops; typo - it's the 20th)
But close.
My thoughts: It's an engineering student (maybe a freshman) that is not doing well in school. The student shot in AJ was probably a former girlfriend/boyfriend. The classroom is probably the class he/she is failing. The 2 hour delay was probably for the student to wait for his/her class to start.
I could be wrong, but that's my feel for the situation.
Columbine High School Is today the anniversary of that tragedy?
The Columbine tragedy was on April 20, 1999%26gt;%26gt;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_H...
Edit: I am sorry, mommybest, I did not see your answer, before I looked mine up..
Reply:The Columbine shooting was on April 20, 1999.
slippers
But close.
My thoughts: It's an engineering student (maybe a freshman) that is not doing well in school. The student shot in AJ was probably a former girlfriend/boyfriend. The classroom is probably the class he/she is failing. The 2 hour delay was probably for the student to wait for his/her class to start.
I could be wrong, but that's my feel for the situation.
Columbine High School Is today the anniversary of that tragedy?
The Columbine tragedy was on April 20, 1999%26gt;%26gt;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_H...
Edit: I am sorry, mommybest, I did not see your answer, before I looked mine up..
Reply:The Columbine shooting was on April 20, 1999.
slippers
How can I git good goverment job in district of columbine?
I have a GED and life's exparienced
How can I git good goverment job in district of columbine?
Do you want a good job or do you want a goverment job? You can't have both.
Yipee, to points 4 me.......
Reply:You cant. Well unless you work for the Postal Service. Otherwise you need at least a Bachelor's Degree. If you try to go by life experience you wont get a high level (GS grade) and you will start with very low pay. Even being a secretary you will need a Bachelor's degree. And just to get you on the right foot make sure when putting in resumes use spell check. Its get=git and its District of Columbia. Hate to have to correct a person but had to do it.
Reply:1. Show up and keep your seat warm.
2. Limit your coffee breaks to five per day.
3. Limit your lunch break to 3 hours per day.
4. Only call in sick on Mondays and every other Friday.
Reply:Well, if you don't know how to spell get correctly, there aren't many possiblities. But try your best! =]
How can I git good goverment job in district of columbine?
Do you want a good job or do you want a goverment job? You can't have both.
Yipee, to points 4 me.......
Reply:You cant. Well unless you work for the Postal Service. Otherwise you need at least a Bachelor's Degree. If you try to go by life experience you wont get a high level (GS grade) and you will start with very low pay. Even being a secretary you will need a Bachelor's degree. And just to get you on the right foot make sure when putting in resumes use spell check. Its get=git and its District of Columbia. Hate to have to correct a person but had to do it.
Reply:1. Show up and keep your seat warm.
2. Limit your coffee breaks to five per day.
3. Limit your lunch break to 3 hours per day.
4. Only call in sick on Mondays and every other Friday.
Reply:Well, if you don't know how to spell get correctly, there aren't many possiblities. But try your best! =]
Do you know somebody who was involved in the Columbine shooting?
I served on a ship while in the US Navy with a guy who was a freshman that day and the storys are crazy. He was not in the main part but still, also he told me how Rachel Scott was not a "perfect little cathloic" She was actually rude, smoked and not perfect if you know what I mean.
Do you know somebody who was involved in the Columbine shooting?
Yes, my husband was a senior at the time and was at the school that day. My sister in law was very good friends with Rachel Scott, and I'm sure she'd be upset if she saw what you wrote about her.
Of course I see your point, not everyone is perfect or is the epitome of the image that is portrayed by media or even themselves. But also of course this should absolutely have nothing to do with someone's death.
Telling you from an insiders prospective, there are a million things that the media has gotten wrong about the shootings. The "Trenchcoat Mafia" for one thing was a fabrication made up by the media, just going off of what the popular kids called the "weird" kids in passing to make fun of them. The media couldn't even get the town right, as the cool is technically in unincorporated Jefferson County, not Littleton, which is the mailing address. I could go on and on.
What happened that day seems to be forgotten, as people still think its cool and hilarious to bring up 4/20 as a joke about pot. The event is still painful to people from Colorado even if the rest of the world doesn't care. Its good to bring the topic up to talk about it, and media misconceptions are definitely a good starting point. Whats irrelevant is the character of the people who've died. Let's let them rest in peace.
Reply:Rachel went to a Christian church, she was not Catholic. You have NO idea what you are talking about. Do you believe anything people tell you? Just because this guy said that about her, doesn't make it true. She was NOT a rude girl!!! And name ONE person who IS perfect! They don't exist! So you have nothing to base you claims on except for some kid who wanted a connection to a poor girl who lost her life.
Reply:This happened eight years ago. It's time we finally let it (them) rest.
Reply:does it really matter ? Besides he could be lying
Reply:even so, she didn't deserve to get killed.
Reply:what is your point? I do know people who were involved in the Columbine shooting and I find it very insensitive to talk negatively about anybody who is innocently killed. especially when it could be a lie.
Think before you post.
Reply:I know a retired officer who investigated the scene. I took a forensic course as an undergraduate, where he was the instructor. We viewed actual footage (w/o sound) of the event. On that day, there were no perfect people... just those trying to escape alive.
Reply:throtle by wire . am I misunderstanding your question?? arnt all bikes throtles connected to the carbs / injectors by wire(cable)..
Reply:Yes.
Reply:I was in Denver at a training class for the company I worked for when it happened. Very sad-a lot of employees left becuase their children were students at Columbine.
As for the rest of your comments, can't say I'm going to dwell on it. It was a very sad day, what we have learned from it and how to prevent it happening again is what matters.
Reply:I agree with PINK it doesnt matter and if haven't noticed it a sensitive subjest for locals.....she didn't deserve to die!!
END OF STORY
and yes to your question
Reply:no
safety boots
Do you know somebody who was involved in the Columbine shooting?
Yes, my husband was a senior at the time and was at the school that day. My sister in law was very good friends with Rachel Scott, and I'm sure she'd be upset if she saw what you wrote about her.
Of course I see your point, not everyone is perfect or is the epitome of the image that is portrayed by media or even themselves. But also of course this should absolutely have nothing to do with someone's death.
Telling you from an insiders prospective, there are a million things that the media has gotten wrong about the shootings. The "Trenchcoat Mafia" for one thing was a fabrication made up by the media, just going off of what the popular kids called the "weird" kids in passing to make fun of them. The media couldn't even get the town right, as the cool is technically in unincorporated Jefferson County, not Littleton, which is the mailing address. I could go on and on.
What happened that day seems to be forgotten, as people still think its cool and hilarious to bring up 4/20 as a joke about pot. The event is still painful to people from Colorado even if the rest of the world doesn't care. Its good to bring the topic up to talk about it, and media misconceptions are definitely a good starting point. Whats irrelevant is the character of the people who've died. Let's let them rest in peace.
Reply:Rachel went to a Christian church, she was not Catholic. You have NO idea what you are talking about. Do you believe anything people tell you? Just because this guy said that about her, doesn't make it true. She was NOT a rude girl!!! And name ONE person who IS perfect! They don't exist! So you have nothing to base you claims on except for some kid who wanted a connection to a poor girl who lost her life.
Reply:This happened eight years ago. It's time we finally let it (them) rest.
Reply:does it really matter ? Besides he could be lying
Reply:even so, she didn't deserve to get killed.
Reply:what is your point? I do know people who were involved in the Columbine shooting and I find it very insensitive to talk negatively about anybody who is innocently killed. especially when it could be a lie.
Think before you post.
Reply:I know a retired officer who investigated the scene. I took a forensic course as an undergraduate, where he was the instructor. We viewed actual footage (w/o sound) of the event. On that day, there were no perfect people... just those trying to escape alive.
Reply:throtle by wire . am I misunderstanding your question?? arnt all bikes throtles connected to the carbs / injectors by wire(cable)..
Reply:Yes.
Reply:I was in Denver at a training class for the company I worked for when it happened. Very sad-a lot of employees left becuase their children were students at Columbine.
As for the rest of your comments, can't say I'm going to dwell on it. It was a very sad day, what we have learned from it and how to prevent it happening again is what matters.
Reply:I agree with PINK it doesnt matter and if haven't noticed it a sensitive subjest for locals.....she didn't deserve to die!!
END OF STORY
and yes to your question
Reply:no
safety boots
Does anyone know where to get cheat codes for the Columbine PC game?
Don't give me ****, I love this game. Suck my balls.
Does anyone know where to get cheat codes for the Columbine PC game?
Gamespot.com
Reply:Oh, good tactic with "I love this game, so don't kill my buzz, yo", trying to entice self righteous pricks into flaming you, good one. I believe you can use "cheat engine" to change your stats in the games and stuff, or that's what a simple Google search tells me, if you weren't trying to get people to argue with you you would've used your common sense and did what I did.
Oh, and finally: You no longer have to say "I love this game, so suck my balls" any more, apparently one of the columbine victims (the one who was paralyzed) has played it and says it's partly a good thing, and just a game. So it's ok.
Reply:try cheatcc
Does anyone know where to get cheat codes for the Columbine PC game?
Gamespot.com
Reply:Oh, good tactic with "I love this game, so don't kill my buzz, yo", trying to entice self righteous pricks into flaming you, good one. I believe you can use "cheat engine" to change your stats in the games and stuff, or that's what a simple Google search tells me, if you weren't trying to get people to argue with you you would've used your common sense and did what I did.
Oh, and finally: You no longer have to say "I love this game, so suck my balls" any more, apparently one of the columbine victims (the one who was paralyzed) has played it and says it's partly a good thing, and just a game. So it's ok.
Reply:try cheatcc
Has anybody noticed that the shootings at virginia tech seemed not to be as "famous" as columbine?
Are we desensitized? Twice as many people died. Columbine there were reports and storys for about a year after.
Weird.
Has anybody noticed that the shootings at virginia tech seemed not to be as "famous" as columbine?
I agree that there has been far less coverage of the Virginia Tech shootings than there was (and continues to be) of the Columbine incident.
A cynic might say that it's because the perpetrator wasn't a white kid from a middle- to upper-class socioeconomic group who wasn't "supposed" to behave as he did. Not enough "why did he do it?" mystery to contemplate.
An optimist might say that the media is acting on a widely held belief that many school shooters are seeking long-term celebrity more than anything else. To deny that desire is thought by some to be one way to discourage future events.
A compassionate person might hope that the lack of publicity is attributable to the sense that Cho was truly suffering from mental illness and doesn't deserve the sort of infamy that Harris %26amp; Klebold achieved. Similarly, it could suggest a consensus that his family deserves compassion and privacy rather than finger-pointing.
A news expert might conjecture that even though more deaths resulted from the Virginia Tech shootings, the incident was basically an imitation of the 1999 event and therefore not worthy of a lot of news coverage. (This may reflect the desensitization you mention....)
For whatever reason the news coverage hasn't achieved the level created at Columbine, I would say that the low-key media approach to this incident is far better for all concerned.
Reply:on 4/20 we had a moment of silence for ringing the bell at our bell tower for VT but that was the anniversary of columbine. But our principal never mentioned them.
Reply:Yes I have noticed that, and it is very strange.
Reply:I would pretty much say what fuzzylizard said. Plus it is just common news now I guess because there have been so many. On a parenting board a few weeks ago a parent wanted advice as to what to do to a boy threatening her child with a knife on the playground and the police and school chalked it up as boys being boys because I guess they dont watch tv. These boys were like 3rd and 4th graders not highschoolers. The no tolerance for Bullies motto all school say they have is a load of crap because they keep letting the bad kids get away with all the crap they pull.
Reply:I think that their is a good reason for that ... One being that the nut jobs that do this sort of think are looking for recognition they want attention and the media is all about giving negitive attention. Like Al Gore said the news media was all over Anna Nicoles death and Brittany Spears break down that they should focus on real problems like Global Warming.
That is not what people want , people want to hear stupid crap and it's the BS that sells.
Reply:Yes, I was just going to say that. We are desensitized to this type of violence. Since Columbine its happened again more than once. I think we just expect that it will happen again and our efforts is to increase security. Instead of getting to the root of the problem. We try to build safeguards against it. Its like we accept it and know that it will happen again, instead of being shocked by it and trying to make society better.
Reply:Maybe it is because at the current time we have been directly or inderectly responsible for at least 64,000 iraqi civilian deaths and it seems kind of hypocritical for us to gnash our teeth and tear our hair over 33 dead Americans.
Reply:It's like the moon landings. The first one captured the imagination, the rest less so because it's been done already. I know this isn't a perfect analogy, and I do not want to appear insensitive, it's just the first one that sprang to mind
Reply:Its the sympathy for the guy with the mental problem v. the stone cold killers. VT should have had a better villian if they were looking for noteriety.
Reply:i was just thinking the same thing yesterday... one minute it was all over the news... and then u dont hear a word about it. maybe because columbine was more or less the first school shooting... its really sad... i feel for all the familys involved in any school violence.
Reply:We are becoming desensitized to violence. People think it's all just the next version of "GTA - Blacksburg," or something.
Reply:I don't think we should make that kind of stuff famous anyways.
Reply:i do think we are desensitized. colombine was the first school shooting in years and years but since then they have been happening almost yearly
Reply:Yes we have become desensitized to things like that. They happen much more frequently now. After 911 where thousands died, some people are not going to get upset about 35. It's wrong and scandalous but that's the way it is. When something else happens like 911, I'm sure it won't get as much publicity as 911 did. Today's world is sick.
Reply:Columbine happened during a slow news year.
VA tech was not as important because Britteny shaved her head, Anna Nicole died, Paris is going to jail, Lindsey is an alcoholic, Angelina adopted a baby, Sanjaya was on Idol, Rosie was a fat dyke,Cheney shot a buddy,Bush lied,and was lied to,and Osama is still running free.
Who the hell cares if 32 people were murdered.
There is more important crap going on.
Reply:Sadly to said school shooting is old news now.
I would not call it being famous more like a tragedy, we have to look at the time when that tragedy occur. Right now the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and Republicans and Democratic jumping into political arena those are the headliner for the news.
Debate on making school safer will be apart of to do list for the upcoming election
Reply:i think that it is the samething and it is famous as the columbine.
Reply:Yep - the media has desensitized us. I used to be a news junkie, but - now - I limit myself to catching up with the headlines in the morning and the evening. Why? Because I found myself shrugging over stories that, at one time, would have had me in tears.
Reply:Maybe they are letting this story "die" no pun intended - so it does NOT get too much media attention - - - after all the media attention that Columbine received - there were still many school shootings. People tend to imitate life.
If the media does not make such a big deal out of this - perhaps there will be less shootings. Although I doubt it - but I can hope.
Columbine got more attention because those 2 nuts PLANNED this for months.
This Virginia Tech guy was just a Few Clowns Short of a Circus and was in need of help and finally lost it.
Too bad nobody recognized this BEFORE he took all those innocent lives.
Reply:Pretty much. Note that the way the media spins it, this virginia tech incident is almost a replica of Columbine. Take a look at the checklist. Awkward loner who got picked on throughout his life, who made a spectacle of himself and elevated himself to some self perceived higher level, who harbored an extreme grudge against his perceived enemies, and has a history of mental illness. In addition, this happened at a college campus while Columbine was a high school, and we all know that in America, a child's life is worth more news fodder than an adult's
Reply:Maybee some poeple don't want to talk about it ,it's hard on certain people, but i have seen a couple of things on tv when it hapened...but im sure it will stay in viginia tech's students hearts forever...and it will not be forgotten....
Weird.
Has anybody noticed that the shootings at virginia tech seemed not to be as "famous" as columbine?
I agree that there has been far less coverage of the Virginia Tech shootings than there was (and continues to be) of the Columbine incident.
A cynic might say that it's because the perpetrator wasn't a white kid from a middle- to upper-class socioeconomic group who wasn't "supposed" to behave as he did. Not enough "why did he do it?" mystery to contemplate.
An optimist might say that the media is acting on a widely held belief that many school shooters are seeking long-term celebrity more than anything else. To deny that desire is thought by some to be one way to discourage future events.
A compassionate person might hope that the lack of publicity is attributable to the sense that Cho was truly suffering from mental illness and doesn't deserve the sort of infamy that Harris %26amp; Klebold achieved. Similarly, it could suggest a consensus that his family deserves compassion and privacy rather than finger-pointing.
A news expert might conjecture that even though more deaths resulted from the Virginia Tech shootings, the incident was basically an imitation of the 1999 event and therefore not worthy of a lot of news coverage. (This may reflect the desensitization you mention....)
For whatever reason the news coverage hasn't achieved the level created at Columbine, I would say that the low-key media approach to this incident is far better for all concerned.
Reply:on 4/20 we had a moment of silence for ringing the bell at our bell tower for VT but that was the anniversary of columbine. But our principal never mentioned them.
Reply:Yes I have noticed that, and it is very strange.
Reply:I would pretty much say what fuzzylizard said. Plus it is just common news now I guess because there have been so many. On a parenting board a few weeks ago a parent wanted advice as to what to do to a boy threatening her child with a knife on the playground and the police and school chalked it up as boys being boys because I guess they dont watch tv. These boys were like 3rd and 4th graders not highschoolers. The no tolerance for Bullies motto all school say they have is a load of crap because they keep letting the bad kids get away with all the crap they pull.
Reply:I think that their is a good reason for that ... One being that the nut jobs that do this sort of think are looking for recognition they want attention and the media is all about giving negitive attention. Like Al Gore said the news media was all over Anna Nicoles death and Brittany Spears break down that they should focus on real problems like Global Warming.
That is not what people want , people want to hear stupid crap and it's the BS that sells.
Reply:Yes, I was just going to say that. We are desensitized to this type of violence. Since Columbine its happened again more than once. I think we just expect that it will happen again and our efforts is to increase security. Instead of getting to the root of the problem. We try to build safeguards against it. Its like we accept it and know that it will happen again, instead of being shocked by it and trying to make society better.
Reply:Maybe it is because at the current time we have been directly or inderectly responsible for at least 64,000 iraqi civilian deaths and it seems kind of hypocritical for us to gnash our teeth and tear our hair over 33 dead Americans.
Reply:It's like the moon landings. The first one captured the imagination, the rest less so because it's been done already. I know this isn't a perfect analogy, and I do not want to appear insensitive, it's just the first one that sprang to mind
Reply:Its the sympathy for the guy with the mental problem v. the stone cold killers. VT should have had a better villian if they were looking for noteriety.
Reply:i was just thinking the same thing yesterday... one minute it was all over the news... and then u dont hear a word about it. maybe because columbine was more or less the first school shooting... its really sad... i feel for all the familys involved in any school violence.
Reply:We are becoming desensitized to violence. People think it's all just the next version of "GTA - Blacksburg," or something.
Reply:I don't think we should make that kind of stuff famous anyways.
Reply:i do think we are desensitized. colombine was the first school shooting in years and years but since then they have been happening almost yearly
Reply:Yes we have become desensitized to things like that. They happen much more frequently now. After 911 where thousands died, some people are not going to get upset about 35. It's wrong and scandalous but that's the way it is. When something else happens like 911, I'm sure it won't get as much publicity as 911 did. Today's world is sick.
Reply:Columbine happened during a slow news year.
VA tech was not as important because Britteny shaved her head, Anna Nicole died, Paris is going to jail, Lindsey is an alcoholic, Angelina adopted a baby, Sanjaya was on Idol, Rosie was a fat dyke,Cheney shot a buddy,Bush lied,and was lied to,and Osama is still running free.
Who the hell cares if 32 people were murdered.
There is more important crap going on.
Reply:Sadly to said school shooting is old news now.
I would not call it being famous more like a tragedy, we have to look at the time when that tragedy occur. Right now the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and Republicans and Democratic jumping into political arena those are the headliner for the news.
Debate on making school safer will be apart of to do list for the upcoming election
Reply:i think that it is the samething and it is famous as the columbine.
Reply:Yep - the media has desensitized us. I used to be a news junkie, but - now - I limit myself to catching up with the headlines in the morning and the evening. Why? Because I found myself shrugging over stories that, at one time, would have had me in tears.
Reply:Maybe they are letting this story "die" no pun intended - so it does NOT get too much media attention - - - after all the media attention that Columbine received - there were still many school shootings. People tend to imitate life.
If the media does not make such a big deal out of this - perhaps there will be less shootings. Although I doubt it - but I can hope.
Columbine got more attention because those 2 nuts PLANNED this for months.
This Virginia Tech guy was just a Few Clowns Short of a Circus and was in need of help and finally lost it.
Too bad nobody recognized this BEFORE he took all those innocent lives.
Reply:Pretty much. Note that the way the media spins it, this virginia tech incident is almost a replica of Columbine. Take a look at the checklist. Awkward loner who got picked on throughout his life, who made a spectacle of himself and elevated himself to some self perceived higher level, who harbored an extreme grudge against his perceived enemies, and has a history of mental illness. In addition, this happened at a college campus while Columbine was a high school, and we all know that in America, a child's life is worth more news fodder than an adult's
Reply:Maybee some poeple don't want to talk about it ,it's hard on certain people, but i have seen a couple of things on tv when it hapened...but im sure it will stay in viginia tech's students hearts forever...and it will not be forgotten....
Need to know other ppls opinions about the columbine clip on youtube called Zero Day Shooting?
The reason why im asking this, i want to know if this is the real footage of the incident. My CSI teacher told us it was real, at least i think he did, but anyways i just want to know your opinion on if it is real or not, Thankyou
Need to know other ppls opinions about the columbine clip on youtube called Zero Day Shooting?
No. There is an actual film "Zero Day" which mimics the Columbine shooting.
Wow... they have CSI classes now. Very interesting.
Need to know other ppls opinions about the columbine clip on youtube called Zero Day Shooting?
No. There is an actual film "Zero Day" which mimics the Columbine shooting.
Wow... they have CSI classes now. Very interesting.
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