Friday, November 18, 2011

Columbine highschool- a perfect case for gun ownership?

True or false?





If every student were properly trained to use/respect weapons and were armed at school, incidents like the Columbine massacre would be over in two seconds.

Columbine highschool- a perfect case for gun ownership?
Absolutely true. In areas where concealed carry has been permitted, crime invariably goes DOWN.





About ten years ago a middle school principal disarmed two boys who had killed a teacher and a couple of classmates. The principal had retrieved his legally owned pistol from his car and promptly ended the bloodshed without further violence.





I teach, and I am a military trained firearms expert. California law does not permit me the option to defend myself and my students should we ever be attacked.
Reply:Yes I agree, let's sell guns to everybody in school so they will all have an equal chance.





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Reply:Yup, three maybe four fatalities max. They walk in, shoot a student in class, and are turned into swiss cheese where they stand.





The downside is that everytime someone got pissed off about the stupid things that teenagers get pissed off about, there would be another shooting.
Reply:let natural selection run it's course i guess.
Reply:I don't know but it is a prefect case where parents need to be parents and not the kids buddy.





To build bombs in thier bedrooms and do nothing.





I do like the saying "an arm society is a polite society"
Reply:there would be a columbine every two seconds...would you trust kids with guns....to earn respect you have to get it....
Reply:No, I disagree.





Students in the public school system are not all alike--they all handle aggression differently.





What Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did at Columbine was an incident that should not for any reason be given the chance to occur again...giving kids mandatory lessons on gun control and GIVING them guns is not only absurd, but downright dangerous.





You know what it's like to take sex ed. You know what sex is already, you don't care about the exact mechanics of it--and most kids will have no benefit from the class that they don't already know the basics of even if their prior knowledge is just locker room talk. The only product is a generation that is desensitized to the subject.





Kids who are forced to take a gun class will not only feel cornered and pushed, but they might feel the need to resist against something they don't want to do. Granted, there are some kids who are responsible enough to handle owning a gun, but taking 4000 kids and putting a gun into each of their grasping, angst-ridden hands, then pushing them into a building of hormones, puberty, stress, and rejection...that's simply stupid.





Kids are that: kids. They vary just like adults do, and just because you're teaching someone about the dangers of something doesn't mean they'll listen.


Don't you remember D.A.R.E.? And look the statistics for the number of average high school students that do drugs anyway.





It won't help enough to have a major impact--and under no circumstances should every teenager in school be given a firearm. It's not responsible.





An optional class, yes. Teachers, faculty, etc armed, yes but again optional (some people against owning a gun might not want to carry one).


But most definitely NOT the students.
Reply:False. While I support gun ownership, the last thing I want to see is a bunch of teenagers running around with firearms. They can barely handle a vehicle, let alone a gun. I think that armed security at a school is necessary. Our schools have a city police officer stationed at the school whenever classes are in session.
Reply:You have got to be joking.
Reply:The teachers, not the students.
Reply:you are kidding right? so instead of kids beating each other up on the playground they bust a cap in their a**. GREAT PLAN
Reply:That is one example. There are others.
Reply:well not students because there will probably be a higher risk of accidental death then columbine and also consider if someone is mad they will go home plan and this and that steal or buy a gun and will proabably think its a bad idea, BUT if they were provided a gun already i think they would shoot right there. i believe security and faculty should be armed and teach the class what to do if something happens like that
Reply:Teachers, administrators etc. yes. Not the students. The columbine massacre could have been avoided any number of ways. If parents had better relationships with their kids, it the parents had properly secured their firearms and ammunition, if the faculty was better at noticing the problem behavior, if someone had interceded etc.





We shouldn't focus so much on the means they used but on why they felt it necessary to do.





In the 1980's a disgruntled ex-boyfriend used a half gallon of gasoline to set fire to a social club in New York. 86 people died in that fire without any guns being involved at all. I doubt he could have killed that many people if he had ten guns. You don't see us outlawing gasoline do you?














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