After 9 years of Columbine massacre, do you think the students mind now have change??

Literrally i never heard of Columbine massacre until before, pardon me i dont live in US.





i read the whole article in Wikipedia, it was a horrible stuff that happened. serious truoble..





But sadly now i am thinking, that i dont think many had change since then.. students still get bulied, torture,etc..





isn't it just sad?? :(





R.I.P to the victims..

After 9 years of Columbine massacre, do you think the students mind now have change??
Pat, you are correct when you say that not much has changed about the atmosphere of the average American high school or middle school. Bullying, ostracism, teacher abuse and labeling, professional misconduct by school officials, and outright ignorance of the problem by mental health professionals and parents are still just as prevalent today as they were nine years ago. Public awareness of school violence has increased somewhat, however. Unfortunately, though, the number of people like me who really understand the TRUE cause of tragedies like Columbine are few and far between, or at least it appears to be that way from all indications I have seen.





Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the killers, were two boys who became seriously mentally ill and eventually turned psychotic because of years of emotional and mental abuse and bullying by their classmates and peers. At some point, these boys just snapped, and they became hungry for revenge-and since guns were easy to get in Colorado at that time, they had ready access to weapons. But the shootings which followed were about more than just simple revenge- the killers also wanted notoriety. They wanted their "15 minutes of fame" like a lot of people do, and they also wanted to put their school and community on the map and show the world what they had endured for years at the hands of their peers and teachers. It was because of this desire for fame that the boys invited Hollywood directors Steven Spielburg and Quentin Tarantino to make movies out of the videos of the shootings. To date, neither director has responded to their invitation, and it's not likely that will ever happen.





The worst thing about the Columbine tragedy was that it, like every single one of the other school shootings in recent years ( and by now, there have been well over a dozen of them at different places around the country) was COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY PREVENTABLE. Columbine could have and should have been STOPPED before it ever happened- and had the boys' parents, the school officials, and the mental health community been paying attention to the poisonous relationship these boys had, it might well have been avoided entirely. Those boys were mentally ill, and their downward spiral into madness began LONG YEARS before the shooting. There was evidence uncovered after the shootings which indicated that the younger boy, Klebold, was already exhibiting signs of severe mental illness as early as the age of 9, LONG before he and his family ever moved to Colorado. WHY WASN'T THIS RECOGNIZED, and the boy given treatment? Because no one wanted to admit anything was wrong was part of it, I think. Then we have this business about how Wayne Harris, Eric's father, allowed his son and Dylan to build bombs in the family garage, all the while pretending not to have noticed anything was wrong or that his son's behavior was in any way strange or unusual. I have to question both HIS sanity and his judgement, which was clearly LACKING. His total denial of what was going on and his refusal to see that his son was in serious trouble ( according to the reports I have read, he still apparently is unable to see anything wrong with what he was allowing his son to do, even after the tragedy) contributed to a situation that was totally avoidable and never should have happened.





Lastly, I am extemely critical of the way the law enforcement community responded to that tragedy. The shooting was over with and the killers were dead in the first 7 minutes- but it took the entire rest of the day for the cops to get over their fears and enter the building once the rest of the students and teachers had been evacuated. That was a criminal act in itself, at least in my mind, because it led to the unnecessary and preventable death of the teacher who was shot. That poor man DIED from shock and hemorrhage- he BLED to death because the cops were TOO SCARED to send anyone into the building to bring him out and get him to the hospital. There was no danger after the first 7 minutes- but because the sheriff and the county cops had it stuck in their heads that the killers were still in the building and still on a rampage, no one was allowed in until it was far too late. I grieve for the families of all the students who died, yes, but I grieve even more for the family of this poor teacher, whose kids were left without their dad, and whose wife is now a widow. Bleeding to death is a HORRIBLE WAY TO DIE, I don't care how one thinks about it. We pay our police officers and emergency personnel to protect us, NOT to act like cowards, the way these cops did. I roundly condemn EVERY ONE of the cops who acted in such an unprofessional manner that day- both the students who died and the community at large deserved far better than what they got, and so did the family of that poor teacher.





Have we learned anything from the Columbine tragedy? Unfortunately, here I have to say NO, we haven't, at least not really. If that were true, then we might have been able to take steps to prevent at least SOME of the tragedies which have occured since that awful day nine years ago. Virginia Tech was preventable- there were clear warning signs that Cho, the shooter, was mentally ill and that something was about to happen, but no one paid any attention to them until it was too late. Like Klebold and Harris, Cho was a man who had endured YEARS of abuse and ostracism at the hands of his peers while in high school because of his racial background- he was the son of South Korean immigrants. Eventually, the pain got bad enough that he snapped, and the result was the deaths of 32 innocent people last spring. The same was true for the shooting at Northern Illinois University in Dekalb, IL, and it was also the case with the shooting at Delaware State last fall, in which a young woman was killed. One of the things I keep wondering is how many times we are going to go through this cycle of school violence and shootings before something is finally done to address the REAL causes of such tragedies? I know some lessons must be repeated many times before they sink in- but I wish the price wasn't so high.





Good question!!!
Reply:No, I don't think students have really changed any, human nature being what it is, specifically, the need to feel better than someone else. Then there's the adolescent preoccupation with self and image.





What may be needed are more heroes, those rare popular students willing to go out their way to spend time with the unpopular ones, the "outcasts."





Short of that, just going to school performances and games to support the participants does far more good than anyone can imagine. Band geeks are people, too.





Not tolerating abuse of any kind is also something anyone and everyone can do to help. Like, if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem, maybe THE problem.





For everyone else, the saying is as true as ever, that no teenager is ever as confident as she or he appears. What you see on the outside may not be even close to what's going on inside. And humans are social creatures by nature. No one really wants to be alone all the time. Get involved. Get interested.
Reply:It's horrible that someone could do that to another human being.


There have been more of these tragic events since then, not just in the USA.


A couple I can think of are the Virginia Tech in 2007 (USA) and Beslan Primary School hostage in 2004 (Russia).
Reply:It is in the minds of administrators and teachers all the time. If they feel a child needs some extra help or counseling they will suggest it in order to avoid things like this from happening. These things happen because of trouble inside of their brains from depression etc. if the parents stopped being "proud" and took their kids to therapy, such things may be different.





Students have not changed much unless they were directly affected by events such as this one. Parents do try to teach not to bully etc, but it can only go so far.
Reply:its part of life man. think about it you hurt or piss someone off long enough if they fight back you expect it. them kids took it further they wanted to die and of course most if they are gonna die they want to take others with them so why not take out the people that made you want to kill yourself?
Reply:2 brain dead metalheads kill 30 ppl, now everybody thinks teenagers are suicidal killers!


its just the way it is, thank god a massacre like that hasnt happened in a high school since!
Reply:yea but that happens everywhere

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